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The fifth FreeBSD Developer Summit was held on September 13, 2003, at + Vicor's offices in Richmond, CA, immediately following BSDCon 2003 + in San Mateo, CA. The FreeBSD Developer Summit was sponsored by + DARPA, NAI Labs, and Vicor. Notes were taken by Bruce Mah and were + edited by Murray Stokely.

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Meeting began at 10:00am, ended at 5:00pm.

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Agenda

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Attending:

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On The Phone:

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The meeting followed a format where each section was led by an + individual and then a discussion ensued.

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Opening Remarks - Robert Watson

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Welcome to the fifth FreeBSD Developer Summit at BSDCon 2003. + This event is sponsored by:

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The sponsors covered the cost of the room, food, telephone access, + etc.

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Growth of the Project (from BoF)

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Positive Netcraft numbers

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HEAD activity maintained even when RELENG_3 came out.

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As soon as RELENG_4 came out, RELENG_3 activity +dropped dramatically.

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Large spike in commits just before +RELENG_5_0_0_RELEASE.

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About half the number of committers are working on RELENG_4 +compared to the HEAD. Implies that most commits to RELENG_4 really do +go through HEAD first.

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Slightly less than half of commits go into sys/ + +

Perforce submission rates are about half that of rate in the main +src/ CVS branch.

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"RaidFrame fell victim to a disk error." --scottl

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(Tentative schedule reviewed)

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Release Engineering, RELENG_4 - Murray Stokely

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Complaints about PAE stability. Definitely need to tweak 4.9 +schedule. Need to get people access to hardware to check stability +under high load. Really need stability for non-PAE case.

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Seems like a 2-week delay. sam is holding changes for MFC, waiting +for things to settle down. dg wants the PAE stuff ripped out. phk +thinks we're going to delay more like 6 weeks before we have +confidence in this.

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Discussion

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PHK : Could we put this in P4?

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IMP : Problem is that non-PAE +users (who are having problems) won't have motivation to use it if +it's not in CVS.

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rwatson : What's minimalist +backout patch? We need to get more info. Are PAE developers going to +have time to work on this? If not, we have to kick it out.

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Two-week timeline to get more information for fixing it. Need to +be able to reproduce it in a developer environment...need information +on workload.

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peter : Things that he and ps +would run into this problem pretty quickly. (Want to get silby in +touch with him.)

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+"I'll just tell Paul that the next snapshot he makes has an unknown +bug causing instability and he'll just go crazy trying to fix it." +--peter.

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Release Engineering, HEAD - Scott Long

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"Somebody get him some tissues so he can cry without shorting out his +laptop." --peter.

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scottl : amd64 ia64 sparc64 +support.

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Discussion

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marcel : New uart(4) driver +supports serial console on the HP boxes in the cluster. HP boxes with +no ISA bus emulation now supported from CVS. Should now be able to +release for all ia64 boxes from CVS.

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imp : uart(4) driver encapsulates +lots of different UART chips. puc(4) driver is for aggregating many +things at one attachment point.

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Could we replace sio(4) with uart(4)? sio(4) is more about +squeezing out performance, uart(4) is more about flexibility. Low-end +performance would suck, but that's probably not the target platform +for 6.0.

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phk wants minimum hardware specs for releases. grog says that the +people in this room are not typical users. Much debate about this. +rwatson: Defer this for 6.0 session.

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5.X efforts need to concentrate on stability and performance.

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imp : Need to tie up loose ends in +supported hardware, etc.

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